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In Ulf Norell's PhD thesis, which is considered the standard reference of the Agda 2 language, the universes are cumulative, say, Set i is not just an instance of Set (suc i), but also a subtype of it.

However, in the implementation of Agda, this is not true. We only have the "instance of" relation, not the subtype relation, until recently (--cumulativity).

IMO, it is good to have more flexibility, but why would Agda developers delete this in the beginning? What inconveniences or problems did cumulative universes bring to us?

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One reason (not particularly specific to Agda) might be that eta reduction is not compatible with cumulativity.

With cumulativity (that is $Set_0 \leq Set_1$), and given \begin{align*} f &:= \lambda X.(\lambda Y.Y)X &: Set_0\to Set_1\\ f_\eta &:= \lambda Y.Y &: Set_1\to Set_1\\ f_\beta &:= \lambda X.X &: Set_0\to Set_0 \end{align*} we would have (and we can prove, say, in Coq) $$ f \equiv_\eta f_\eta\qquad\text{ and }\qquad f\equiv_\beta f_\beta$$ which are well-typed because $$(Set_1\to Set_1) \leq (Set_0\to Set_1)\quad\text{ and }\quad(Set_0 \to Set_0) \leq (Set_0\to Set_1) ,$$ but we have the awkward situation that $f_\eta$ is not comparable to $f_\beta$.


So while Coq has cumulativity but does not eta-reduce (it does eta-convert however), Agda supports eta-reduction (please correct me if this is wrong) but does not support cumulativity.

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    $\begingroup$ I don't agree with your first displayed $\eta$-equivalence. $\eta$-conversion is fundamentally a typed notion; it can't equate your LHS of type $\rm Set_0 \to Set_0$ with your RHS of type $\rm Set_1 \to Set_1$. Also I don't know what you mean by "Coq does not eta-reduce"; since quite some time ago Coq does have definitional $\eta$-conversion. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 10, 2022 at 5:18
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    $\begingroup$ You example relies on having annotated abstractions, and indeed it is part of the reasons why having η in the reduction is problematic in Coq. But Agda’s abstractions are unannotated, so the issue should disappear… $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 10, 2022 at 11:53
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    $\begingroup$ Doesn't this argument apply to subtyping in general? Current Agda has a limited amount of subtyping, so this can't be a fatal issue. $\endgroup$
    – James Wood
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    $\begingroup$ This seems just another example of "eta-reduction is broken (even without cumulativity), use (type-directed) eta-expansion", which I think is what Agda uses. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 16, 2022 at 10:05
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    $\begingroup$ In fact, Agda does have eta-reduction (at least for records!), but it's still unsound: github.com/agda/agda/issues/2732. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 20, 2022 at 13:26

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